fitting wrinkles 1

I may have been reading too many of my Girl’s Own Annuals again!

Anyway, fit has been on my mind a lot recently.

I think there is a fear of fitting, and I totally get why. It’s incredibly invasive! If someone helps fit you they have to lay their hands on you and move your body in unfamilir ways.

It is such a matter of trust there are only a few people I will offer to help one on one, and that is generally if I trust the garment, and the person is an adult.

So here is a very first start to a lesson series. Or guide, or tutorial.

 

I have three mannequins here. I can make them all the same measurements. here is the closest match to the calico covered form.

Ignoring the length differences, notice the height of the busts.

Busts:

Notice the shape and gravity defyingness. Also, the direction and placement.

When placing a dart under the bust or a seam over the bust and down to the waist there is a division of the front of the body. If I were to make the same garment for each, they would have to be adjusted for each form as generally the distance between bust points over sizes scales, the shape of the sides, and how they curve around the ribs changes.

I look at a garment on the stand and think it looks lovely, then I put it on and it is not flattering, to me I’m very circular in cross section so darts/seams don’t sit like on oval forms. So I test on all three forms for fit and balance. Nothing wrong in fit, nothing wrong in the shapes of us, just that they are different.

Hips:

The dark brown form has very round hips in cross section. They are set to the same size as the others but because the fullness is almost perfect even garments will hang very differently, and vice versa.

The bust points are also different and requires a bit of math to work out how to set the dials to bring them together/further apart- also the torsos are in four parts, there is not a lot of transformation possible!

The hips also slope slowly or curve out abruptly.

I am a mix of these three. I wind up using the dark brown form for upper hip and armscye fittings.

Backs and shoulders:

The forms also show very different stances! And when a pattern is made to fit, it will sit differently on me if I don’t match the stance.

The peachy-tan form has a ballet back! The back of the pelvis is turned under for a turn out.

The calico form has a slight sway back.

The dark brown form is bent forward slightly at the shoulders.

I haven’t called them flaws, because I stand like all three depending on circumstance. But it means I do have to really check what era is best matched 🙂

They also really are distinctive modern historic fashion stances. The dark brown in particular has a 1950s and 60s shape. The peachy-tan one looks very 1980s (the shoulders are not large but from handling this form it is easy to add shoulder padding, in fact easier than any other.) The calico form is much more modern. Built in shoulders mean no room for extra padding and an expectation of a muscular upper back.

Padding:

I use the calico form for nearly everything else as I am able to pad her to a victorian shape. I add extra hip and bust padding, which is squishy, so I can see the effect of pinching fabric in at the waist and how to taper darts or use an S shape in my dart to create an exaggerated bust.

So I use padding not only to match my shape but to match the shape I want. In the case of Mina.. that has been seriously challenging! As I am circular in cross section I cann’t squish underbust at all. So it always looks bigger in proportion. I have to wear extra.. enhancements to balance that, and even more to get that magnificent sweep of the bodice that made me fall in love with the gown.

I do generally add padding anyway.

 

 

There is so much more, obviously, there are shelves of books on the subject. Photos, diagrams, text.. anything you could want. But sometimes it takes seeing something unfamiliar to make that connection.

 

So that’s why I keep sharing my experiences. As both someone who has had to tackle fit for my own body and to make them both work for historical styles.

 

Being able to talk about the forms and their shapes

cutting systems and machines

Hold the phone and shut the door!!!!

https://repository.si.edu/handle/10088/2441
Cutting a Fashionable Fit: Dressmakers’ Drafting Systems in the United States
Kidwell, Claudia B.
DOI: https://dx.doi.org/10.5479/si.00810258.42.1
Date: 1979

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG!!!!!!!!!

This book!!! I have had very old very worn photocopies of this book since I was at university and it’s here! In full! In high res and low res!!!! Get it now, seriously if you have any interest in costuming this is a must have!

I cannot believe it’s genuinely distributed, the pdf turned up in a google search so I tracked back to the full credit and OMG!

 

So I was looking in general for cutting systems as I love them. They give a much better insight into how different eras accomodated different body shapes than anything else. Drafting books are good but these show the impact of changing a measure on other points of measure.

And now there is another book I’d love to track down:

https://books.google.co.nz/books?id=NWNUDIqC_jMC&printsec=frontcover
The Female Economy: The Millinery and Dressmaking Trades, 1860-1930
Wendy Gamber
University of Illinois Press, 1997 – Business & Economics – 300 pages

This is a very different take on the effect these systems had on those working in garment making. In truth it’s the same sort of reasoning behind tailor’s manuals being restricted initially, or throughout, I haven’t read all manuals just many!

It includes pages of cutting machines at a size it would be possible to recreate.

 

https://archive.org/details/mauderussellsyst00russ
The Maude Russell system of garment cutting; text book ..
by Russell, Maude (Westerman), Mrs., 1885- [from old catalog]
Published 1917
I love these! Currently hunting down older versions as they are more helpful for me as someone doing earlier work, but these kinds of adjustable templates are reasonably common. But this is very nice because it may be possible to print out your own and transfer to card.

 

Also of interest is this book from the 1870s
https://archive.org/details/guidetodressmaki00symo
Guide to dressmaking
by Symonds, J. Henry, pub. [from old catalog]
Published 1876
Topics Dressmaking, Garment cutting. [from old catalog]

This does feel like a reprint, but the details on trimmings and stitching and assembly is exactly what I really want. I mean in conjunction with a fitting system! This really is an incredibly good guide and it’s free!

https://archive.org/details/nationalgarmen00gold
The National garment cutter
by Goldsberry, Doran & Nelson. [from old catalog]
Published 1884

https://archive.org/details/nationalgarment00gold
The national garment cutter book of diagrams. Goldsberry & Doran, proprietors ..
by Goldsberry & Doran, Chicago. [from old catalog]
Published 1888
Topics Garment cutting. [from old catalog], Dressmaking

Two editions by the same company. Very easy to understand and each includes a yoked kilted (pleated) skirt of the kind worn in Bram SToker’s Dracula, and seen in Patterns of Fashion 2. I use the principle a heck of a lot in my skirts to allow for an agressive or subtle train.

 

Perhaps the most recognised drafting machine is the McDowell.

http://www.google.ms/patents/US342216
Publication number US342216 A
Publication type Grant
Publication date 18 May 1886
Filing date 30 Jul 1885
Inventors Albert Mcdowell

 

Anyway, I am now happily thinking of ways to recreate these in a stable material.

corsetry- how to guides in periodicals

While trying to help another costumer I decided to totally test and challenge what I thought I knew about historic corset construction.

I have about 17 years worth of images stashed from auctions and online galleries as well as have pages from books on theory. I have a great handle on pre-industrial stays and post 1900 stays but the actual assembly of 19thC corsets has been frustratingly difficult to get a handle on.  Most corsets are displayed on a stand and many interior images are not illustrative of construction more concerned with makers marks.

So I started looking for museum examples and textile curator comment. Side note- blue satin was big for the 1870s!

Blue corset, c. 1868-1874

  FIDM to the rescue!

From here I hunted for these precious instructions, and HEARTH came to the rescue! Title: Harper’s bazaar: Volume II, Number 41
Publication Info: Ithaca, New York: Cornell University, Mann Library
Series: Browse the rest of the issues of this journal: Harper’s bazaar
Print source: New York: Hearst Corp., October 9, 1869   PLEASE NOTE: Harper’s Bazar is the correct spelling at this time, but often sites will use the more recent variation. If you are having trouble finding either sales of the original magazines or articles try searching for both.

  (The thumbnail links to the individual page)   Right, so handy written instructions! But oh, there are patterns for all of these! In a supplement. Most annual bound volumes do not retain these, however one person did offer the full magazine for sale a while ago.  

Free Shipping** Harper’s Bazar Harper’s Bazaar Complete Magazine With Corset PATTERN SHEETS Oct 1869 Original Re-enactment Costume History.   So close! I hunted antiquarian sites, and other online archives with no luck. From here however I was reminded that Harper’s Bazar was basically a reprint in English of Der Bazar. Which gave me some more search options!   Friday, May 03, 2013
Making a Fichu-Collar: Tutorial for a Useful Early Bustle-Era Whatsit

The Inspiration Fichu-Collar from Der Bazar

Let’s dig into the version that made it onto my dress. The basic design comes from Der Bazar, the German magazine from which Harper’s obtained a good bit of its content, in the January 9, 1871 issue. Yes, much of my research dates from 1871, or from 1868-1869.

Ding ding ding!!!   However from this point I have run into a Pinterest Go Round. I found a pinner who seems to have uploaded scans directly. However there are at least two different sources of the patterns, one where the overlapping lines have been highlighted, clearly multiple views stitched together a lot of work to disregard, the other looks like a scan of aged paper.   So I have tried to find an academic source and have managed to find the current stable Digital collection in Heinrich Heine Universität Düsseldorf

Der Bazar : illustrirte Damen-Zeitung. Berlin : Bazar-A.G., Jg. [1.]1855 – [5.]1859 = Bd. 1-15; Jg. 6.1860 – 83.1937[?]

And here is the corresponding page from der Bazar!Der Bazar › XV. Jahrgang. 1869. › Nr. 37. Unfortunately no supplement for this one however there are extra materials listed in an old version of this site.  

    I have been able to compare the digital effects of the patterns on pinterest and I think I can work my way through the university files to find the ones that were printed in page at least. I suspect there are some scans of the tissue supplements that may be down to individual owners of copies of the magazine.   While I have saved these scans for personal use I am putting in every effort to credit those who have done the actual scanning and preserving of these documents. Once I have this I will update with a part two of this post.       (Side note, instructions on drafting and assembling an 1869 bodice!)

Instruction book for the standard tailor system .. (1896)

Instruction book for the standard tailor system .. (1896)

Author: Evan, H. P., co., Chicago. [from old catalog]
Subject: Dressmaking; Garment cutting. [from old catalog]
Publisher: Chicago, Ill., H. P. Evan co.
Possible copyright status: The Library of Congress is unaware of any copyright restrictions for this item.
Language: English
Call number: 5881277
Digitizing sponsor: The Library of Congress
Book contributor: The Library of Congress
Collection: library_of_congress; americana
Full catalog record: MARCXML

Another pattern book- more patterns less detail on how to make them. But a lovely range of patterns for the family (no tailoring.)

Streiff’s system of garment cutting (1913)

Streiff’s system of garment cutting (1913)

Author: Streiff, Eugene Lawrence, 1866- [from old catalog]
Subject: Tailoring
Publisher: Detroit, Mich. [Printed by A. W. Brookes]
Possible copyright status: The Library of Congress is unaware of any copyright restrictions for this item.
Language: English
Call number: 10107813
Digitizing sponsor: Sloan Foundation
Book contributor: The Library of Congress
Collection: library_of_congress; americana
Full catalog record: MARCXML

Male and female garments, shorter with more direct patterns with less text on fitting.

Twentieth century instruction book; artistic ladies’ tailor system (1902)

Twentieth century instruction book; artistic ladies’ tailor system (1902)

Author: Vienna ladies’ tailoring institute, New York. [from old catalog]
Subject: Dressmaking. [from old catalog]; Garment cutting. [from old catalog]
Publisher: New York, Vienna ladies’ tailoring institute
Possible copyright status: The Library of Congress is unaware of any copyright restrictions for this item.
Language: English
Call number: 7753660
Digitizing sponsor: Sloan Foundation
Book contributor: The Library of Congress
Collection: library_of_congress; americana
Notes: no page numbers
Full catalog record: MARCXML

Ooooh, saving this one! Detailed text on the side of each pattern step and a few adverts. Definitely recommended!

The practical sketcher; a complete and practical method of sketching, for women’s, misses’, junior’s, children’s and infant’s garments (1915)

The practical sketcher; a complete and practical method of sketching, for women’s, misses’, junior’s, children’s and infant’s garments (1915)

Author: Rosenfeld, Isidor, 1881- [from old catalog]
Subject: Dressmaking. [from old catalog]
Publisher: New York, The Leading pattern co.
Possible copyright status: The Library of Congress is unaware of any copyright restrictions for this item.
Language: English
Call number: 6366445
Digitizing sponsor: Sloan Foundation
Book contributor: The Library of Congress
Collection: library_of_congress; americana
Full catalog record: MARCXML

How to create those sketches used in pattern drafting systems!

The Maude Russell system of garment cutting; text book .. (1917)

The Maude Russell system of garment cutting; text book .. (1917)

Author: Russell, Maude (Westerman), Mrs., 1885- [from old catalog]
Subject: Garment cutting. [from old catalog]
Publisher: Oklahoma City, Okla., Maude Russell garment cutting co.
Possible copyright status: The Library of Congress is unaware of any copyright restrictions for this item.
Language: English
Call number: 9649190
Digitizing sponsor: Sloan Foundation
Book contributor: The Library of Congress
Collection: library_of_congress; americana
Full catalog record: MARCXML

Woo! An actual system with tools and all! The tools are not included but it should be possible to scale up to full size and make some from firm card. Project for summer???

The Holmes cutter. A practical system for garment cutting that is based on selfvarying principles for block patterns .. (1894)

The Holmes cutter. A practical system for garment cutting that is based on selfvarying principles for block patterns .. (1894)

Author: Holmes, Nelson. [from old catalog]
Subject: Tailoring
Publisher: [Chicago?]
Year: 1894
Possible copyright status: The Library of Congress is unaware of any copyright restrictions for this item.
Language: English
Call number: 8218422
Digitizing sponsor: The Library of Congress
Book contributor: The Library of Congress
Collection: library_of_congress; americana
Full catalog record: MARCXML

Oooh, very nice, tailor garments for men and women. Laid in landscape so very practical!

The American system of dressmaking (1909)

The American system of dressmaking (1909)

Author: Merwin, Pearl
Subject: American College of Dressmaking, Kansas City, Mo; Dressmaking; Tailoring (Women’s); Garment cutting
Publisher: Kansas City, Mo., The American College of Dressmaking
Possible copyright status: The Library of Congress is unaware of any copyright restrictions for this item.
Language: English
Call number: 10096944
Digitizing sponsor: Sloan Foundation
Book contributor: The Library of Congress
Collection: library_of_congress; americana
Full catalog record: MARCXML

Okay, this is lovely. Drafting, sewing and fitting for a full wardrobe from innerwear to outerwear. Basically to the point where you’d have to go buy things (like millinery, hoiery, shoes, and corsets.)

Mainly women’s clothing.

Addn 16/09/18: as per the wonderful comment below I went to look for more information about the school.

The Rotarian

May 1914
144 pages
Vol. 4, No. 9
ISSN 0035-838X
Published by Rotary International
Established in 1911, The Rotarian is the official magazine of Rotary International and is circulated worldwide. Each issue contains feature articles, columns, and departments about, or of interest to, Rotarians. Seventeen Nobel Prize winners and 19 Pulitzer Prize winners – from Mahatma Ghandi to Kurt Vonnegut Jr. – have written for the magazine.

More such adverts can be found, I used the following search criteria: https://www.google.co.nz/search?tbm=bks&hl=en&q=American+College+of+Dressmaking%2C+Kansas+City